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	<title>Comments on: #icanhazpdf: Civil disobedience?</title>
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		<title>By: Kurt Freiberg</title>
		<link>http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/2011/12/22/icanhazpdf-civil-disobedience/#comment-216475</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt Freiberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 00:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s spell Holmes. As in Sherlock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s spell Holmes. As in Sherlock.</p>
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		<title>By: DIY Fernleihe &#8211; die dunkle Seite der Macht &#171; Hatori Kibble</title>
		<link>http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/2011/12/22/icanhazpdf-civil-disobedience/#comment-174395</link>
		<dc:creator>DIY Fernleihe &#8211; die dunkle Seite der Macht &#171; Hatori Kibble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] einem amerikanischen Science-Blog gibt es dazu übrigens eine interessante Diskussion, ob das jetzt einfach nur eine simple Urheberrechtsverletzung oder aber ein Akt des zivilen [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] einem amerikanischen Science-Blog gibt es dazu übrigens eine interessante Diskussion, ob das jetzt einfach nur eine simple Urheberrechtsverletzung oder aber ein Akt des zivilen [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Taylor</title>
		<link>http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/2011/12/22/icanhazpdf-civil-disobedience/#comment-130145</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comparison with the Underground Railroad is not wrong at all.  Access to research results saves lives.  (We can tell that big publishers agree with this, otherwise there would be no Hinari.)  It follows that LACK of access COSTS lives.  So, yes, access to research is a moral issue, not just a business one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparison with the Underground Railroad is not wrong at all.  Access to research results saves lives.  (We can tell that big publishers agree with this, otherwise there would be no Hinari.)  It follows that LACK of access COSTS lives.  So, yes, access to research is a moral issue, not just a business one.</p>
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		<title>By: Someguy</title>
		<link>http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/2011/12/22/icanhazpdf-civil-disobedience/#comment-129847</link>
		<dc:creator>Someguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those that do use this. Put your email in the tweet and delete the tweet when you receive the document. I see several using the hashtag without email.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those that do use this. Put your email in the tweet and delete the tweet when you receive the document. I see several using the hashtag without email.</p>
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		<title>By: coturnix</title>
		<link>http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/2011/12/22/icanhazpdf-civil-disobedience/#comment-108243</link>
		<dc:creator>coturnix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Asking for a paper - by shouting from a mountain top, or by email, or on Twitter (with or without any hashtag) is legal.

Sending a copy is legal.

But, the moment the recipient OPENS that paper, it (due to a stupid court case from a few year back) legally creates a new &quot;copy&quot; (on the screen, yes). At that moment, the act of sending by the sender become illegal - a new copy of the paper was made.

This is why people using #icanhazpdf are fine - nothing they do is illegal. But they should be careful about thanking the senders. There is a good reason most senders do not say anything publicly about it - they DM to get email address, then mail it, without saying anything on Twitter (and certainly not drawing even more attention to themselves by re-using the hashtag).

Of course, one reason that publishers are not going after this is that the #icanhazpdf tweet contains a link to their site. More eyes on a paper, more likely it will get read, later cited, thus adding to the IF of the journal. If the recipient uses the paper in some way - to cite in their own paper, or to write an article/post about it - this again brings attention to the paper and potentially increases the IF of the journal. So publishers tend to go only after Big-Time copyright breakers, not after single-paper exchanges.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asking for a paper &#8211; by shouting from a mountain top, or by email, or on Twitter (with or without any hashtag) is legal.</p>
<p>Sending a copy is legal.</p>
<p>But, the moment the recipient OPENS that paper, it (due to a stupid court case from a few year back) legally creates a new &#8220;copy&#8221; (on the screen, yes). At that moment, the act of sending by the sender become illegal &#8211; a new copy of the paper was made.</p>
<p>This is why people using #icanhazpdf are fine &#8211; nothing they do is illegal. But they should be careful about thanking the senders. There is a good reason most senders do not say anything publicly about it &#8211; they DM to get email address, then mail it, without saying anything on Twitter (and certainly not drawing even more attention to themselves by re-using the hashtag).</p>
<p>Of course, one reason that publishers are not going after this is that the #icanhazpdf tweet contains a link to their site. More eyes on a paper, more likely it will get read, later cited, thus adding to the IF of the journal. If the recipient uses the paper in some way &#8211; to cite in their own paper, or to write an article/post about it &#8211; this again brings attention to the paper and potentially increases the IF of the journal. So publishers tend to go only after Big-Time copyright breakers, not after single-paper exchanges.</p>
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		<title>By: rofrechette</title>
		<link>http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/2011/12/22/icanhazpdf-civil-disobedience/#comment-106332</link>
		<dc:creator>rofrechette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many interesting comments.  Unfortunately, most scientific journal copyright statements make it clear that virtually all scientists are in violation at one time or another.  Permission is granted to subscribers and members of subscriber institutions - including inter library loan members - to produce ONE copy for personal, non-commercial use (not clear what this means if the scientist is earning a salary by the business or institution where the copy has been made).  Further, many journals add a clause indicating that the one copy must be destroyed after reasonable use - typically defined as following the experiment or draft of the paper for which the copy was used as a reference.  Handing a copy to a friend, storing a copy indefinitely in a file cabinet, sending a copy over the internet are examples of copyright violation. 

The problem is that nobody can subscribe to all journals that might be needed for a research project. This is further exacerbated by the fact that employees of small institutions, start-up companies and individuals may not have access to libraries or inter library loan privileges as intended in copyright statements, leaving them with the choice of paying $25-50 for copyright clearance (for the article copy that must be discarded after reasonable use) or finding a friend/colleague/online source to &#039;share&#039; the article. For most such researchers, the cost of legally gathering reference papers for even a small project is prohibitive... 

Surely, publishers understand that copyright infringement is happening every day, and would prefer that it stop. Historically, scientific journal copyright violation prosecutions have been initiated against individuals and institutions - albeit not too many in the news lately - suggesting a degree of realistic tolerance.  It is the unfortunate fact that producing and disseminating high quality, peer-reviewed scientific literature has a cost, whether the publication is issued on paper, online or both.  Publishers have to find a way to support those costs if such publications are to continue...and scientists have to find a way to gain access to the papers they need to progress in their work. #icanhazpdf may be one solution, but it comes with the risk that publishers, and courts, may not agree that it constitutes reasonable use as defined in copyright statements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many interesting comments.  Unfortunately, most scientific journal copyright statements make it clear that virtually all scientists are in violation at one time or another.  Permission is granted to subscribers and members of subscriber institutions &#8211; including inter library loan members &#8211; to produce ONE copy for personal, non-commercial use (not clear what this means if the scientist is earning a salary by the business or institution where the copy has been made).  Further, many journals add a clause indicating that the one copy must be destroyed after reasonable use &#8211; typically defined as following the experiment or draft of the paper for which the copy was used as a reference.  Handing a copy to a friend, storing a copy indefinitely in a file cabinet, sending a copy over the internet are examples of copyright violation. </p>
<p>The problem is that nobody can subscribe to all journals that might be needed for a research project. This is further exacerbated by the fact that employees of small institutions, start-up companies and individuals may not have access to libraries or inter library loan privileges as intended in copyright statements, leaving them with the choice of paying $25-50 for copyright clearance (for the article copy that must be discarded after reasonable use) or finding a friend/colleague/online source to &#8216;share&#8217; the article. For most such researchers, the cost of legally gathering reference papers for even a small project is prohibitive&#8230; </p>
<p>Surely, publishers understand that copyright infringement is happening every day, and would prefer that it stop. Historically, scientific journal copyright violation prosecutions have been initiated against individuals and institutions &#8211; albeit not too many in the news lately &#8211; suggesting a degree of realistic tolerance.  It is the unfortunate fact that producing and disseminating high quality, peer-reviewed scientific literature has a cost, whether the publication is issued on paper, online or both.  Publishers have to find a way to support those costs if such publications are to continue&#8230;and scientists have to find a way to gain access to the papers they need to progress in their work. #icanhazpdf may be one solution, but it comes with the risk that publishers, and courts, may not agree that it constitutes reasonable use as defined in copyright statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/2011/12/22/icanhazpdf-civil-disobedience/#comment-105077</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rightfully or wrongly, I’ve always read ‘fair use’ to mean to avoid use that would cause the copyright holder a (potential) loss of income. Many of the journals ask such high fees for a single paper I’m left feeling that publishers on hand wish to restrict free copies to ‘fair use’ but on the other are not providing a *realistic* alternative, leaving at least some of their intended clients damned either way.

For what it’s worth (not related to #icanhazpdf): I’m under the impression that one advocacy forum gathers research papers into an archive they have created, which they then provide to their members.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rightfully or wrongly, I’ve always read ‘fair use’ to mean to avoid use that would cause the copyright holder a (potential) loss of income. Many of the journals ask such high fees for a single paper I’m left feeling that publishers on hand wish to restrict free copies to ‘fair use’ but on the other are not providing a *realistic* alternative, leaving at least some of their intended clients damned either way.</p>
<p>For what it’s worth (not related to #icanhazpdf): I’m under the impression that one advocacy forum gathers research papers into an archive they have created, which they then provide to their members.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Holmes</title>
		<link>http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/2011/12/22/icanhazpdf-civil-disobedience/#comment-101975</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 23:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh for heavens sake....
No Virginia, &quot;fair use&quot; does not breach copyright (look it up), the question is whether this is fair use (&amp; I think it probably is, same way photocopying &amp; sharing with a colleague clearly is, but IANAL)
No Virginia, publishing scientific research for money (which the publisher asks the reader to pay for) is not immoral, no matter who funded the research (unless it was the Nazis). It&#039;s just a f***ing business model. Take a deep breath people
Yes Virginia it is OK to use phrases like &quot;underground railroad&quot; or &quot;slaving away in the lab&quot; or &quot;heads will roll&quot; or a million others with referents of questionable taste... as long as one doesn&#039;t take the analogy too literally (which some obviously do)
And finally, no Virginia, &quot;civil disobedience&quot; is not much better
But the good news is YES - there is an #icanhazpdf Santa Claus
Happy Xmas all]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for heavens sake&#8230;.<br />
No Virginia, &#8220;fair use&#8221; does not breach copyright (look it up), the question is whether this is fair use (&amp; I think it probably is, same way photocopying &amp; sharing with a colleague clearly is, but IANAL)<br />
No Virginia, publishing scientific research for money (which the publisher asks the reader to pay for) is not immoral, no matter who funded the research (unless it was the Nazis). It&#8217;s just a f***ing business model. Take a deep breath people<br />
Yes Virginia it is OK to use phrases like &#8220;underground railroad&#8221; or &#8220;slaving away in the lab&#8221; or &#8220;heads will roll&#8221; or a million others with referents of questionable taste&#8230; as long as one doesn&#8217;t take the analogy too literally (which some obviously do)<br />
And finally, no Virginia, &#8220;civil disobedience&#8221; is not much better<br />
But the good news is YES &#8211; there is an #icanhazpdf Santa Claus<br />
Happy Xmas all</p>
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		<title>By: DrugMonkey</title>
		<link>http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/2011/12/22/icanhazpdf-civil-disobedience/#comment-101908</link>
		<dc:creator>DrugMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 19:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;just&quot; like? No but should this ever come to litigation do you really think the judge will disallow such comparisons to be drawn?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;just&#8221; like? No but should this ever come to litigation do you really think the judge will disallow such comparisons to be drawn?</p>
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		<title>By: coturnix</title>
		<link>http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/2011/12/22/icanhazpdf-civil-disobedience/#comment-101843</link>
		<dc:creator>coturnix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See: http://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/03/20/the-electronic-publishing-bingo-card/

&quot;Publishing is just like the music business&quot; trope is so wrong, and so many times debunked, that it even made the e-Publishing Bingo card.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See: <a  href="http://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/03/20/the-electronic-publishing-bingo-card/" rel="nofollow">http://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/03/20/the-electronic-publishing-bingo-card/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Publishing is just like the music business&#8221; trope is so wrong, and so many times debunked, that it even made the e-Publishing Bingo card.</p>
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